tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170843747241811034.post6738999291150915242..comments2024-03-27T16:07:27.865+00:00Comments on Inside the secret garden: When is a teacher not a teacher?Julian Grenierhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12848393412066522760noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170843747241811034.post-15598360391660202322013-03-05T09:08:11.786+00:002013-03-05T09:08:11.786+00:00Julian, I wonder if I could ask your advice. I hav...Julian, I wonder if I could ask your advice. I have returned to university to top up my degree to meet Gove's new requirements. I am currently predicted a 1st and specifically wish to teach early years. If you were in my position now would you train through a PGCE or wait? Lynhttp://thenewmandiaries.wordpress.com/2013/03/01/teacher-teaching-assistant-childminder/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170843747241811034.post-42259387070305493812013-03-03T15:46:59.620+00:002013-03-03T15:46:59.620+00:00I'm a TA in a school nursery and also have HLT...I'm a TA in a school nursery and also have HLTA status and EYPS. However, schools don't recognise EYPS in their salary scales at all. I am paid HLTA rate to cover PPA time, but it has become clear recently that other HLTAs don't see what I do -either in PPA or day to day in nursery as 'active teaching'. There's a long way to go for Early Years to be seen as significantly as it should be in laying excellent foundations for KS1 and 2 through professional, well qualified staff.<br />Aside from that, EYPS you refer to the 39 Standards - that has now changed in EYPS which seems odd with the change to EYT hot on its heels!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170843747241811034.post-77069253058216895332013-03-03T14:36:53.344+00:002013-03-03T14:36:53.344+00:00Hi Lesley - thanks for making that point and highl...Hi Lesley - thanks for making that point and highlighting that there is plenty of good practice in the support and training of EYPs. The point I was making is that there is no requirement for observation in the assessment process. The required process, as I understand it, is - first several written reflective accounts by the candidate of their work. An assessor visits the setting in and the evidence from written tasks and the setting visit will check whether the 39 standards have been met. The written tasks are the evidence for the requirements; the setting visit is to corroborate and supplement the evidence of the tasks. In contrast, to attain QTS (and I am not holding up QTS as any kind of "gold standard" here, it also has serious problems) the candidate have their practice regularly observed. I think that's necessary for any professional qualification - that your actual work is assessed directly, not how you write about it, reflect on it, and evidence it in a file.<br />Julian Grenierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848393412066522760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170843747241811034.post-19749166962376377452013-03-03T14:31:44.772+00:002013-03-03T14:31:44.772+00:00Thanks Kierna - you're right that there is a b...Thanks Kierna - you're right that there is a big fight going on in Scotland about the role of qualified teachers in the early years. I recently posted the following update on Linkedin - - Glasgow Council argues that it isn't necessary to have a qualified teacher leading its nursery schools - saying the main aim of the nursery school is childcare, not early education.http://lnkd.in/Vbbt7pJulian Grenierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12848393412066522760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170843747241811034.post-71709108647659832972013-03-03T12:20:10.694+00:002013-03-03T12:20:10.694+00:00I just want to correct you on one point. I am an E...I just want to correct you on one point. I am an EP working full time in a Kindergarten but I am also a Personal Tutor for EYP candidates and one of my roles (apart from supporting them) is to observe them in their placements. I just wanted you to have all the facts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12110856005374172714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6170843747241811034.post-18709318960983421042013-03-03T11:11:37.392+00:002013-03-03T11:11:37.392+00:00This is a scary route to start going down isn'...This is a scary route to start going down isn't it. I believe that some councils in Scotland have gone this way. A few years ago this idea was floated in N. Ireland but after lots of protests & meetings between the Dept of Education & nursery teachers it was halted. But on the flip side, as a nursery teacher many primary jobs are blocked to me as they require you to have x number of years teaching in a primary school. Great post & have shared it far & wide. Kierna Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14596808181242404873noreply@blogger.com